Introductory Letters from Family Members
by Mike Reilly
The following information was submitted by Uihlein family members in an attempt to learn more about their history.
Date:Fri, 4 May 2001 00:52:29 EDT
Subject:Uehlein Family Tree
To:antiqibles@yahoo.com
Hello,
I'm not sure whom to address this to. I have just stumbled upon a fascinating
family tree that appears to have some of my branches in it. I am very excited
because my siblings and I know very little of our mothers' (Uehlein) background.
I'm also laughing because I am very fond of beer, not an alcoholic!, and that
would be a hoot to my siblings if I could show them a good excuse!
I believe the expert is named Mary Lou
Traffis. I you could get this note to her and ask her to email me I would
sincerely appreciate it. Thank you.
Mary Lou,
My maternal great grandfather is John "Killian" Uehlein, born @ 1860
in Germany. He ended up in far Southern Indiana. He married Ida Connor and they
begat my grandfather, Francis J. "Frank" Uehlien, Clarance Edward,
Maurice Killian,
and Mary Louis. My mother's name is Marguerite Louis Uehlein of Indianapolis. b
1920
d 1998. Any help with the background or whom a good contact for me would be very
appreciated. Thank you
John McBride,
Danville, IN email jjjjmc@aol.com
From: "Seyrer, Yann, Dr., Triaton/DE" <Yann.Seyrer@Triaton.com
Date: Fri, 10 Aug 2001 16:43:38 +0200To: "'schlitzpro@antiqibles.com'"
Subject: Uihlein
Hello Mr. Reilly,
Where does your German ei-Diphthong comes from?
I am a descendant of the German Uihlein family. My great grandfather was
Edmund Uihlein Edmund had three daughters, one of them was my grandmother Louise (*1899), her elder sisters names were Sophie and Else (*1892). Can you validate this?I was told from my grandmother, that Edmund refused to emigrate with his
brothers because he was timid. My parents received a care parcel from the the Uihlein After world war two. My mother was very upset, because the American sender mentioned not to adhere to nazism. My mother as a former member of a nazi tore the letter to pieces and enjoyed the food.Mit freundlichen Grüßen./Regards
Yann Seyrer
Help!! We are trying to find the missing link. According to the information we have gathered we are related to August Uihlein. My husband's great grandfather or grandfather was one of the four brothers that came over from Germany. According to family folklore, this young man created a scandal by having a child and marrying the maid. He was then disinherited and took the name Illian. We have been able to substantiate this from someone that grew up in Milwaukee and his father was prominent in politics. My husband's father was Douglas Frank Illian. We have copies birth certificates of his siblings, Grace Lucille Illian (7/14/1905) and Raymond Henry John Illian ( 4/18/1898 ) but have not located an original for him - Douglas Frank Illian (1/7/07) Their father's name was John Jacob or Jacob John Illian. His mother's name either Rosa Giebla or Rosa Gribel. Any information you have on this missing link would be appreciated. Thank you, Jeanie Illian
jean@illian.org
Subj: Distant Relative of Uihlein's
Date: 01/01/2000 11:53:30 PM Central Standard Time
From: Mltraffis@aol.com
Wow, how weird - I signed on tonight for 2 reasons 1) to make travel arrangements to go to
Milwaukee for work in Jan and thought I would stay over the weekend to do some genealogy
on the Uihlein's/Schlitz and tour the city a bit and 2) to look up a death notice in
Cleveland. For some reason, when I type in for my search of the death notice, the first
item found was your Website on Uihlein/Schlitz family. So of course I had to click in.
I am very distantly, distantly related to the Uihlein's of Schlitz brewery. I descend from
August Uehlein, my great grandfather, who was in the brewery business in
Cleveland, Ohio. Uihlein and Uehlein are derived from ühlein. I
have information on the Uihlein's from Germany and the Wisconsin family. I will check out
your web site to see if you have all I have. Also, in my search years ago, for information
on the Uihlein's, I became good friends with a gentleman in Wertheim, who gave me a lot of
information.
I also have an original wall advertisement from 1878 on the Jos. Schlitz Brewery Company 2
1/2 feet x 2 feet in my possession. It is not for sale.
I look forward to corresponding with you. Also, are you related? If so how. (Editor's
Note - No, I'm not related, just a very interested Schlitz Brewing Co.
historian/genealogist.)
Mary Lou Traffis
Regarding the Uihlein family tree - I can take that family back to
1688 Johann Phillip Uihlein. Most, if not all other documentation has been destroyed in
Europe due to the Napoleon War. So most records such as baptismal and deaths is gone
sadly. I am printing out what you have now and will see what I can add. Oh I received my
copy directly from the Uihlein family.
Mary Lou
From: uline@anv.net
(Mark Uihlein)
As far as I know, my great (great?) grandfather came over the US as one
of three brothers. He stayed in NY and had a wholesale butcher concern on Dean Street
(Brooklyn). He served in a NY regiment during the Civil War and was buried in the Lutheran
Cemetery in Queens, NY (Middle Village) sometime around 1870. I was led to believe that he
was related to the Mid-west Uihleins. He died pretty wealthy for the time. I understand
that his estate was about $250,000.00 in 1871 and was divided among 2 or three family
members. Legend has it that my great grandfather was a bit of a philanderer (wine, women
and gambling) and he lost his share of the inheritance before any of it got put to good
(long term good use versus short term good use which he obviously enjoyed).
As an interesting side note, I have also been told that the Uihleins
were named after an area in Germany (sounds like Uland). They were a family of elite
horseman that traveled into battle with a lance. I have seen mention of the Uihleins as
horseman up to the very early introduction of the gattling gun, sometime between the
Franco-Prussian War and W.W.I. The unit was moved into infantry. I also think that there
is a tie between the Uihleins and these guys as well.
That is most of what I know. Living in Las Vegas I have found it
difficult to do any meaningful research.
From Mary Lou Traffis -
I have done much research on the surname (see
first entry this page) since my family name is Ühlein which is the original name for both
me and the Uihleins. Since America does not have umlauts, they substitute and
"i" or and "e" in America.
As far as coming from Uland, no we can go back to Trennfurt to 1688
Napoleon War destroyed documents before that time.
Just because name of cities and surnames are a like or sound alike does
not mean that is where they came from.
As far as the horseman theory, well lets put it this way - If your name
was Smith or ending in Smith would that mean you came from blacksmiths? If your name was
Tops, does that mean you came from manufactures of Tops? Not necessarily. The WORD
Ühlein, does mean horseman, however the NAME does not mean we are from Horseman!
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